Please support AV Maniacs by visiting our affiliate links. If you plan on making an order, please click one of the above links. This will help sponsor our redesign, which is in the works.


Go Back   The AV Maniacs - Forum > Forums > Erotica (18 and older only, please)

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 05-19-2007, 12:07 AM   #1
Aaron C
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Cartoon Porn

I'm sure we've all seen the hysterical drawings/gif clips of animated porn containing characters from famous cartoons. It's not difficult to stumble onto porno-fied versions of The Jetsons or The Simpsons, but my question is, are there any laws that govern this? What about as far as hentai/anime is concerned? i.e., Is it legal to characterize a living person into a drawing/animation and place that person into a sexual act?
  Reply With Quote
Old 05-19-2007, 09:36 AM   #2
Tim Mayer
Tycoon Of Industry
 
Tim Mayer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Near Philadelphia
Posts: 2,469
Re: Cartoon Porn

I think the Burroughs estate did sue to keep SHAME OF THE JUNGLE out of theaters in the 1970s.
__________________
http://www.fearofdarkness.net
Tim Mayer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-19-2007, 11:33 AM   #3
Aaron C
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Cartoon Porn

Of course, Disney and Warner Brothers have had their issues in the past, do these laws still exist today?
  Reply With Quote
Old 05-19-2007, 02:37 PM   #4
scott favareille
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
Posts: 4,558
Send a message via AIM to scott favareille
Re: Cartoon Porn

In the 1970's, there were several XXX theatrical cartoons. Dave Friedman even produced one of them called Sex in the Comics, which played at Pussycat theaters. (I also recall another one called The Erotic Cartoon Festival, which was a collection of XXX cartoon shorts.)
__________________
"The masses are a**es"
scott favareille is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2007, 04:14 AM   #5
Robin Bougie
Registered User
 
Robin Bougie's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Vancouver BC Canada
Posts: 1,720
Re: Cartoon Porn

"Sex in the Comics" was live action (Actors with weird make up to make them look like famous cartoon characters) and inadvertantly creepy as HELL.
__________________
CINEMA SEWER MAGAZINE
www.cinemasewer.com
Robin Bougie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2007, 08:44 AM   #6
Tim Mayer
Tycoon Of Industry
 
Tim Mayer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Near Philadelphia
Posts: 2,469
Re: Cartoon Porn

I remember seeing a VHS box for "Sex in the Comics" at a video store in St. Louis, Mo. The picture of the actors on the box in cartoon costumes was just too bizarre to rent.
__________________
http://www.fearofdarkness.net
Tim Mayer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2007, 05:19 PM   #7
Jacy Catlin
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Madison, WI
Posts: 511
Send a message via MSN to Jacy Catlin Send a message via Yahoo to Jacy Catlin
Re: Cartoon Porn

It could possibly fall under "parody" (the way Weird Al can get away with using other people's songs, The Onion can use real people, companies, and products in their paper, etc). I would guess Disney, The Simpsons, etc, would probably not go after someone using their © images in porno cartoons, as it would just attract more attention to them. Only in Japan will XXX cartoons of famous cartoons ever me a multi million dollar business (and therefore worthwhile for the © holder to go after the offenders).
Jacy Catlin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2007, 07:45 PM   #8
Jonny Redman
Viva Maurizio Merli!
 
Jonny Redman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: NW England
Posts: 5,607
Re: Cartoon Porn

Anyone know what the cartoon porn film that is shown in 'Plot of Fear' (E tanta Paura) is?



__________________
Lovelockandload ¦ Sonny & Girly
Jonny Redman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2007, 07:47 PM   #9
Jonny Redman
Viva Maurizio Merli!
 
Jonny Redman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: NW England
Posts: 5,607
Re: Cartoon Porn



__________________
Lovelockandload ¦ Sonny & Girly
Jonny Redman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2007, 07:49 PM   #10
Jonny Redman
Viva Maurizio Merli!
 
Jonny Redman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: NW England
Posts: 5,607
Re: Cartoon Porn



__________________
Lovelockandload ¦ Sonny & Girly
Jonny Redman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2007, 07:58 PM   #11
Aaron C
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Cartoon Porn

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jacy Catlin
It could possibly fall under "parody" (the way Weird Al can get away with using other people's songs, The Onion can use real people, companies, and products in their paper, etc). I would guess Disney, The Simpsons, etc, would probably not go after someone using their © images in porno cartoons, as it would just attract more attention to them. Only in Japan will XXX cartoons of famous cartoons ever me a multi million dollar business (and therefore worthwhile for the © holder to go after the offenders).
What about laws concering certain forms of hentai/anime? Are there any limits to what can be drawn, 3D'ed, and virtualized, or would the argument there be infringment on freedom of expression? Actually, is cartoon porn even considered "pornography?"
  Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2007, 08:10 PM   #12
Scott Ruhl
Patch
 
Scott Ruhl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Madripoor: 1988 - small island in the southern portion of the Strait of Malacca, southwest of Singapore
Posts: 14,001
Re: Cartoon Porn

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jonny Redman
Anyone know what the cartoon porn film that is shown in 'Plot of Fear' (E tanta Paura) is?
I don't know but it looks awesome. There's a similar scene in Urotsukidoji III, where a dude with a metal dick forces girls to suck it till he cums then the head of his dick fans out to a set of blades and explodes her head.
Scott Ruhl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2007, 08:42 PM   #13
Jacy Catlin
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Madison, WI
Posts: 511
Send a message via MSN to Jacy Catlin Send a message via Yahoo to Jacy Catlin
Re: Cartoon Porn

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aaron C
What about laws concering certain forms of hentai/anime? Are there any limits to what can be drawn, 3D'ed, and virtualized, or would the argument there be infringment on freedom of expression? Actually, is cartoon porn even considered "pornography?"
Like nearly every other form of pornography, X rated cartoons fall under the "probably ok, unless it has to do with children" rule. This is becoming a legal issue, not only for traditional cartoons, but for highly realistic digital renderings of "children" for the sake of creating "victimless" child porn. Japan already produces a huge about of hentai product with underage looking girls, which, as shown below, can be considered a crime to possess in the US.

From Wikipedia:
The Supreme Court of the United States decided in 2002, and affirmed in 2004, that previous prohibition of simulated child pornography under the Child Pornography Prevention Act of 1996 was unconstitutional.[21] The majority ruling stated that "the CPPA prohibits speech that records no crime and creates no victims by its production. Virtual child pornography is not 'intrinsically related' to the sexual abuse of children."

On 30 April 2003, President George W. Bush signed into law the PROTECT Act of 2003 (also dubbed the Amber Alert Law) which again criminalizes cartoon child pornography.[22] The Act introduced 18 U.S.C. 1466A which criminalizes both Miller Test obscene cartoon depictions of a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct, and, as noted by the 11th Circuit in United States v. Williams, cartoon depictions of a minor or what appears to be a minor engaging in overt sexual intercourse (not merely sexually explicit) and need satisify only the third part of the Miller Test, that it lack serious artistic value.[23]

In December 2005, Dwight Whorley was convicted[24] under 18 U.S.C. 1466A(a)(1) on twenty counts for receiving "...obscene Japanese anime cartoons that graphically depicted prepubescent female children being forced to engage in genital-genital and oral-genital intercourse with adult males."[25]
Jacy Catlin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2007, 08:56 PM   #14
Marshall Crist
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 4,155
Re: Cartoon Porn

Free Dwight Whorley!
Marshall Crist is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2007, 09:03 PM   #15
Jacy Catlin
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Madison, WI
Posts: 511
Send a message via MSN to Jacy Catlin Send a message via Yahoo to Jacy Catlin
Re: Cartoon Porn

Quote:
Originally Posted by Marshall Crist
Free Dwight Whorley!
lol!
I wish the quote read:
In December 2005, Dwight Whorley was convicted[24] under 18 U.S.C. 1466A(a)(1) on twenty counts for receiving "...obscene Japanese anime cartoons that graphically depicted prepubescent female androids with EE cup breasts being forced to engage in genital-genital, oral-genital, intestine-genital, amputated arm stump-genital, tentacle-genital and bat wing-genital intercourse with adult interdementional demonoid shapeshifters."
Jacy Catlin is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:21 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2010, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
www.avmaniacs.com Copyright ©2000 - 2009